06/09/01 - Blue Flame end can comment from Tricia Owen Moody tricom@totalserve.co.uk

I recently fitted a blue flame end can to my sv. and noticed that it was running in a rather chunky manor. I addition the expected performance gains were none existent. to remedy this i took it to the garage and had the carbs balanced. now not only does it sound awesome but it accelerates much more smoothly and rapidly. As for top speed i can only imagine it has added about 15mph........apparently. cheers rob.

17/08/01 - Street fighter exhaust? Thank you to SHU shumakerscott@hotmail.com for this info... 

I have only owned my SV for about a week and I knew the stock exhaust had to go. Reading all the posts on the web page, Renegade looked to be the only way to go. I wanted the dual low mount oval titanium's but the money to buy them wasn't there. I have a catalog from a German company "Louis" and they had a slip on for Dm 300. That is really cheap! They have a great return policy so I decided to try one. 

I was worried that it was going to be too loud, I live in Germany and don't want to attract any attention from the Polizie. The can arrived today and I wanted to all of a sudden get sick so I could leave work and check it out, my wife called and told me it was here. I got home 6hrs later and the first thing was to look down the throat, damn! I can look straight through it. Which to me means LOUD! I didn't want to cut up my stock exhaust on a gamble. Well, I cut it off and installed the end can, to my surprise it isn't too loud at all! This thing sounds great! 

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For anyone looking to open up the sound and not attract attention then this is the pipe. It looks to be a double perf. tube, fiberglass wrapped core. The outlet is 7/8", this isn't very large compared to other brands. I think it will get a bit louder as time goes on but the outlet size seems to dictate it will stay within "no attention" levels. I hope this helps some readers with another choice that isn't so loud. BTW, I still want my dual Rene's!!! 

Sure wish we could convince Jorge to put the "under seat" version of the twin pipes into production. I saw some pics on www.svrider.com  and gave him a call immediately. I pretty much begged him to make a set but I was not successful. Needs more developement he tells me. What a shame, they look so trick and would be a nice addition to my racebike.    keep pestering him....and anyone else who would like the chance to buy the under seat unit.

There has been some discussion on the forum about sound files for different exhausts. Well here's mine, it's a Remus Hogh mount oval alloy pipe,
the Grand Prix Race to be exact. I recorded it with the internal microphone of my notebook from about 2 feet away and to the side a bit. If you
listen carefully you can here the bike start at the beginning. I left this in to give an idea of the sound.

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Here is a piccy of my SVS with its Blue Flame exhaust bolted on. As i think that this is an alternative to the rene's then please let everyone see how good it looks. I purchased it from Busters in Cardiff for the princely sum of £225. Well worth every penny. Dont forget to buy a pair of ear plugs!

Please place in a relevant place on you site (not the trash can!)     would I...... ;- )

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Do you want one? Go see www.renegade-exhausts.com and pester Jorge to make them...  (tell him I sent you!)

when will I stop grinning - it is starting to hurt a bit now! :-))))))

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Have you seen an underseat system for the SV yet? No? Well....you have now....

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This was captured and sent in by Matthew matthew.munday@btinternet.com during a recent visit to Renegade - see their site at www.renegade-exhausts.com and ask questions! If you have more Matthew please send for anaylsis..  ;- )

purchased a low level carbon oval race can for my sv650sy.fitted myself-really easy. can't believe the difference in the bike.   it's a crime to stifle the v-twin engine with the stock exhaust.the power delivery is so much smoother and the bike just wants to keep on pulling on acceleration. it really does look great doing the bike the justice it deserves.

But the over-riding factor for changing the stock can for me was the sound. living in west Cornwall i am limited to available biking shops so relied on other riders opinions of end cans from resources like the internet and i can tell anyone who is thinking on changing their exhaust to a Renegade system is to stop thinking and do it. no disappointment, the noise is absolutely fantastic. i couldn't believe the difference when i first fired it up, a real pulsing thumping beat that gets people looking without annoying them. i am over the moon with my sv and couldn't say enough good things about the Renegade system, and the service-especially if you are fitting it yourself. 

get one today satisfaction guaranteed! 

Having read all of the comments, drooled over the images and listened to the soundfiles, I couldn't wait any longer. A two hundred mile round trip last Friday to see Jorge & Tomoko, and boy, was it worth it.

I was a bit late arriving, having bumped in to Paul from Sussex on his SV and stopping for a coffee. No problem - when I got there Jorge seemed to running a bit late, fitting out a Hornet, so Tomoko kept topping up the coffee. My pride and joy was then carefully placed on Jorge's Dyno, and the guts revved out of it (don't panic - he really does know what he is doing!). 68.4 BHP AT THE WHEEL before Jorge went to work looked promising!

About an hour later and it was all ready - Jorge gave me the honour of starting up, the difference was unbelievable - my baby had transformed into a snorting snarling roaring beast. On the Dyno, she now measured 71.1 HP AT THE WHEEL at 10164rpm (which was nice). Overall, a gain of approx 2hp across the rev range, the "hole" at 5000rpm has disappeared and at 6000rpm I have got a 5hp increase. All of this was with a very tight chain (which Jorge promptly adjusted, along with the misaligned rear wheel and loose number plate).

I ended up leaving Renegade about 3 hours later than originally planned, and joined the M25 at the height of rush hour on a Friday night - not generally a very good idea, but I didn't care. I rode back with that infectious grin that Jorge had warned me about ( and deafened a few lane-hogging Mondeo drivers along the way). 

I am now the very proud owner of twin high level oval carbons and they sound SO good. I will be proudly showing them off at the ride-out so if I start boring anyone with how good they are then I apologise now! 

I recently had a hi level pipe made by Sidekick in Plymouth, after my Art carbon can split, it is the first hi level Dave has made for the SV and he now has a pattern for the link pipe and other mods, i must say though that they have made a top job of it though, and that the standard of service is real good. 

I woudn't hesitate to deal with him again, anyway the quality of build and finish is excellent, its replaceable and can have a decibel killer fitted for track days etc, oh it also sounds mega. 

thanks for the top site. thanks..

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Attention all SV owners.

Just got my high level carbon renegade.I have to say, it IS the dogs danglies! The sound is just right (I got got thumbs up from two 916 riders I met at Mcity) and it's not so loud that you'll be deaf after a couple of rides.

Unfortunately, my bike is restricted to 33bhp, but the can does make my bike breath more easily, and it seems to accelerate from rest with that little bit more bite. Haven't had a chance to test to top end, but it's not as if I need an improvement over 110mph, as with only 33bhp I thought that it's a gallant effort.

Jorge was very helpful fitting the exhaust, and I had a chance to drool over his own underseat system.

Got a note from Holeshot regarding a new high level system. I thought I would pass it along if you want to add it to your site.

YES I HAVE ALREADY PROTOTYPE IT AND IT WILL BE A SLIP ON HIGH PIPE JUST LIKE MY STANDARD I HAVE NOW.SLICK 14 INCH MUFFLER AND NICE MACHINED ALUMINUM SPACERS TO MOVE THE REAR PEG MOUNT OUT 1 INCH TO CLEAR THE PIPE. 

I HOPE TO HAVE A PRE PRODUCTION ONE FINISHED FOR PHOTOS IN 3 WEEKS FOR MY WEB SITE.  PLEASE PASS THE WORD TO OTHER SV OWNERS IF YOU COULD FEED BACK IS WHAT I NEED TO PRODUCE IT. 

IT LOOKS REALLY COOL.   NEW FENDER ELIMINATOR ALSO COMING VERY SOON 

Scopion exhaust, s/steel round, excellent condition, £65

call glenn on 07771 865092 or e-mail glenbo.annie@hubbs.freeserve.co.uk 

It arrived a couple of days later and they even mailed me some instructions so I could fit the can myself. This process only took about 1 hour ( and that was with me being really careful ). It also only took limited tools ( a socket set and decent hacksaw ) and limited mechanical ability ( i.e. me ! ). The can sounds superb and the fact that I can refit the original is another bonus. I was a little apprehensive at tackling the job myself but the chaps at Renegade gave me a few tips and it really was a piece of cake ! 

All in all I was well impressed with the service and the product.

PS - Just a quickie .... do you know what the penalty is for having a race can on my bike ? If I get pulled will I get points on my license or a fine ? Can the police make me take it off ? Do you think I will get a lot of hassle from the Cops ? I believe that you can end up with points (3?) on your license but in many cases you are given a 'warning' to ensure you have a legal can fitted. This mean putting the original back on and going down the station to get a bit of paper signed (this is only the process I've heard about...not been through it myself). I have had no hassle at all from the police but then again I don't use excessive speed or pull wheelies down the high street. My view is that you won't get pulled for an aftermarket can unless you're doing something else to attract the attention of the police i.e. speeding or riding like a prat (or unless it's *really* loud - your Renegade won't be)

I sent you an Article about my ART can which you kindly published. This has generated quite a few enquiries which I enjoy replying to. I have located a superb can hanger from MPS and I enclose another article and 2 jpg files.

Can Hanger from MPS
Further to my earlier article about fitting an Art Can to my SV650 I have now fitted an after-market Can Hanger. I attach a couple of images. One comparing the Old Hanger with the new one off bike. The second showing the finished result on the bike. If like me you never carry a pillion the Can Hanger really tidies up the back end by removing the Suzuki wrought-iron work and replacing it with something a bit special.

The Hanger is sourced from MPS at www.thefastone.co.uk  Cost is £39.99. Part No MPCH-S03. Weight is 5 ounces (The stock Suzuki parts are 20 ounces each). I had to wait a few weeks as MPS get their hangers made to order. It arrives with Allen screws and only takes a few minutes to fit.

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here are some pictures and prices for our new exhaust systems.

dual system with alloy cans £766.00 inc vat
single system with alloy can £529.00 

all are manufactured from stainless steel 304 1"3/4 o/d

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Not much on the site about Remus so Here is my contribution. 

Having fitted Remus GP carbon cans to my ex TLS I was a great believer in them.  Excellent sound reasonably quite at low revs around town and a real  blast on the pipe. But with a journey through central London each day very  risky. When I checked out the SV pipes on offer there were many good  loud pipes around but many of them offered no return to the original pipe  plus many of them were LOUD. I wanted some road pipes that looked good  and had some sound. 

For price and looks the Remus was tempting, the  oval ally were a good price and from www.slickbiker.co.uk  even cheaper. I  took the plunge, with on order from them, very helpful and just 24 hour  free delivery. The Remus road pipe looked the bizz but no instructions.  I looked at all the site photos and decided if Renegade could hack off  the old box with a hacksaw so could I. An hour later excellent  transformation and the sound while not loud was a lot louder than the original  with good bass note. 

So here are the pics, any queries email me  pgh@eurosport.com The rack and engine bars are Renntec, also  excellent. I’ve put them on all my previous bikes saved many an engine case and  the racks are 1st class.

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wanted to send you some pics of holeshots new slip on exhaust. of course you have to cut the original pipe to mount this. the pipe comes with a coupler to remount the stock unit. Mr Walker advises not running a jet kit but shimming the needles and turning the mixture screw like you have post here on the site. 

The pipe comes with directions and shims. you can expect a 3 to 6 horse power gain. and 50 % weight lose. no word on finish date of the dual pipe system.

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Thanks for a great site, really well thought out. I have recently fitted an Art Exhaust Can and I hoped you would add the following to the Exhausts Area. No problem...sorry for delay...

I think the High Level Renegade Silencers look the business but at over £500 they represent a major investment. I recently fitted an "Art" Oval Alloy Can, anodised Blue it really looks cool on the bike. Fits in 30 minutes and only cost me £140 at the NEC Show, £155 normally. I choose Oval as the silencer can be tucked up really close to the Swinging arm.  The Art also weighs exactly half the standard item at 5.5 pounds. The sound is superb, that really mellow sound of rolling thunder you get from a Ducati. 

The Art can sound a bit too fruity in a built-up area though. At under 4000 revs the bike does not cause heads to turn but open the throttle and you do get noticed. Performance is generally improved with a noticeable rush from 9,000 to the redline and no flat spots that I can detect. The pipe sounds best opening up from low revs in a high gear, yum yum! I now find myself cruising about 10 mph faster as the mellow rumble makes the engine note even more relaxed.

I went to the local Carnell Bike shop to show off the Art, everyone gathering outside said the SV sounded just like a Ducati arriving. Shortly afterwards a real 916 arrived, as it got with 200 yards the mechanical thrashing and clashing sounded louder than the exhausts and the mechanically noise at tickover was appalling. The SV650 is so much better engineered. Can't wait till the summer to chase down a few monsters.

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A few weeks ago I got onto the forum page looking some help in the exhaust area. In making the claim that my SV makes 100 hp seems to have started a huge
pissing contest. Enclosed are a dyno graph and pictures of myself at Daytona this past October. I've won the lightweight superbike and GT Lights national championships in both 1999 and 2000.

If anyone is interested in modifying there motor to this level please contact Brian or Rollie @ Valley Racing (Chicago) 708-849-9117.

I will be racing in the Mid-west for the 2001 season and will be at Daytona in the fall.

So if there are still doubters out there basically come to the track and put up or shut up. can't argue with that....

Whilst acknowledging the sites affection for renegade exhausts and living but 10 miles from their factory, they would probably be my first choice also. However I was lucky enough to win a Sidekick exhaust in last years MCN xmas competition. It kept me occupied whilst having to work over the millennium , finding the answers. However Dave at Sidekick had never 'done' an SV650 until now, and I didn't fancy a trip down to Plymouth to be the first. However the first  one has now been completed and I have been sent these images which I  share with you. Hopefully I will get my own soon.

Dave Gartland who runs the company also has his own web site.  www.sidekick.co.uk 

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I thought I would let people know about a good exhaust system i purchased for my SV 650. 

It's from Two Brothers Racing. I got a full race high level system and the finish is top notch. My tuners printer wasn't working but there was a 10hp gain in the midrange and a couple on top. the bike ran great, (I put in a dyno jet kit and it didn't make much difference) all in all a great improvement in performance and sound. I've got the carbon round muffler and haven't had any problems, I only race it (no hot spots or color fading with the carbon) 

They have a lot of good products for the sv including rear-sets and handle bars (and the coolest bar end mirrors made). they have more power on top but the . I highly recommend the exhaust.

I talked to the people at Micron. They indicated that their experience shows them that the best results with their full system is simply to adjust the needle 20 to 40 thou and turn the screw 1/2 to 3/4 more than it currently is. This is US spec. I haven't done this yet I worked the suspension first with a Fox in the back and a full Race tech set up in the front. A very different bike.

As far as the reworking of the carbs and the exhaust goes, does it really make that much of a difference in the "normal range" of use?  I've only done the aftermarket can thing (as you all know by now) and yes, it does make a difference to normal range riding. I never felt a flat spot at 5000rpm before I had the Renegade cans fitted but now I realise there was one! Pulls strong and clean right through 5000rpm and upwards. It is faster and more torquey <sp?>

For sale 3 month old SCORPION EXHAUST s/steel. offers £70.00

Could anyone please tell me the best place to have another pipe fitted to my  sv650sy so it will have split pipes at either side. I currently have a Scorpion race can on at the moment would it be poss to put that in part ex as well as my original can the bike has only done 800 miles could anyone please help me.

I think it's very unlikely any supplier of twin systems/cans for the SV (or any other bike) will take your used aftermarket and original can off you. I suspect you'll have to sell them privately and then go for the twin cans you really want.

The next comments come from my own experience and they've been expressed by others loads of times. Renegade will supply twin cans and modified collector to convert your SV to a twin can bike. The difference is that you keep your original Suzuki can. Renegade will modify the cut end with a sleeve and you'll be able to refit the original can should you need to do so (MOT, police etc..). You use a cap supplied with the twin cans to block off the left hand exhaust exit from the collector. You then sell your Scorpion can (send me an advert and I'll post it) and you're sorted.

If anyone wants to comment on other make twin can set=ups then drop me an email... 

This is just a little payback, for all the great info I've found on sv650.org

I've recently had my SV rejetted after installation of a  Laser clip-on(pn. 96.2226.D).This included installation of a DynoJet kit(pn. E3171.001) and a modified K&N filter. I 
believe this K&N filter to be made at K&N in Denmark since no official version is available yet. (I think)  It's not a world of difference, but I do feel it pulling a bit harder, and it's a lot smoother now with no surging at all.

And I just LOVE the sound of the Laser, wich looks good too though it's carbon look-alike.(Just like the plastic on the SV)

PS..Attatched images of the Dyno results. I hope they're not too big(150-170Kb), but any smaller and it would be hard to read them. thanks Carsten, they're fine..

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i had requested some info on the micron systems to do my exhaust system comparison. they sent me a couple pages of info but not the horse power and weight quotes i wanted. but still they did send me these pictures. not exactly what i was wanting but still it was worth the e-mail. (buy a Renegade product and you can correspond with the owners directly, Jorge inputs to this site almost daily....the customer response from larger companies is often left wanting as in this case...)

also, i received an e-mail from muzzys in ref to the same request from them. they advised they do not have an sv650 system at this time (even they show several on their site). i have not heard back from the other companies yet.

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Micron do a full system for the SV, they sell it in the UK at least!

After reading so many encouraging comments from others, especially on Kevin's SV650 site I decided to take the plunge and booked my baby in at Renegade. 

I went for the twin, low-level, oval, titanium system. This seemed the best option for someone who often carries soft panniers and I didn't want the system to look too obviously 'aftermarket'. 

I spent a very enjoyable day with Jorge and the rest of the Renegade crew. They truly love their work and know that they have an unbeatable product. I chatted to staff, other customers, helped Jorge with his PC and even took customer phone calls when Jorge felt they needed to hear about the product from 'the horses mouth'! 

I finally left at around 5pm, the proud owner of the very first twin low-level system for a Suzuki SV650SY. I can only echo what everyone else has been saying for ages. Forget the rest, get a Renegade system and do it NOW - you won't regret it!! 

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have enjoyed your site. here is my small effort to contribute.

i got a chance to check out the black widow racing system for the sv at laguna seca when WSB was here state-side (haga rocks!).

there is no slip-on option at this time. gotta get the whole system. however, the pipes are higher flow than stock and they are ceramic coated to prevent discoloration and such. the finish is a little brighter than the frame but it looks good. fit and finish was first class. i did not have a chance to hear or ride the bike. i did get an earful from the staff manning the tent tho. they were all really friendly and extremely helpful. their enthusiasm coupled with the great reviews people have given their triumph cans prompted me to order the system. the price is currently $700 (US) plus whatever it costs to get it to where you may be. they did mention a possible price increase to $750 in the future due to what they are calling manufacturing costs (take that as you will).

there are 25 orders ahead of me so i will not receive my system till some time in august. i will let you know what i think then. 

Just thought I'd like to share my experiences with the rest of the SV community.

I've not been very happy with the SV standard exhaust note since my mate Chris wheeled out his TL1000 from winter hibernation. Its got Yoshimura race exhausts and it sounds like THUNDER!

The SV is so quiet. When I'm on my own its less of an involving experience than it should be, and when I was out with Chris, all I can hear is his TL...and that's when he is behind me!

Meanwhile, I became a regular visitor to SV.org and read with interest the comments and experiences of others...well that's what its there for. Taking these factors into account I decided I was going to get a louder can. So I decided to take a logical approach and put together a spread sheet of about 8 manufacturers showing prices and options they gave. In the end I narrowed the selection further to just oval in Stainless, as they are in my view discretely different, as Carbon is a more overtly performance 
part. The list was refined still further to a single, at low level as it showed less exposed pipework than high level, and costs less than a double!

I then Emailed 3 suppliers , and phoned two who offered three solutions between them. The two I phoned didn't inspire the confidence that they knew what they were talking about. Both quoted about 4 weeks delivery with payment upfront, two out of the three have not replied to my emails! It was also important to me to get this sorted sooner than later, four weeks was just too long.

The remaining potential supplier was Renegade. I Emailed them on Sunday to check availability for the following week. By 8:08 Monday I had an Email reply confirming the deal. It was looking good for Renegade. They were on the face of it the most expensive. However Renegade would fit, removing some of the risk in me undertaking surgery, and make my old can reusable and post it back to me. I read somewhere that if you trade in your bike in the UK the dealer must sell it with an approved can. Keeping the original should help the deal. I don't know if its true but this was another factor in the decision process. For me Renegade was 150 miles away so two hours
each way. Renegade said one hour to fit, they opened at 8 o'clock. So... leave early, back home for lunch.

So this is what I did.

I got to Renegade at 7.45, the bike was taken straight in, I was given coffee and magazines. At 8.45 I was told the job was done! Jorge kindly showed me around and showed me the way Renegade goes about things. He also showed me the jig used for SV pipe modifications and the final modified pipe. So no problems with mail orders there then. Jorge also showed me his Dyno machine and results from a previous SV test.

So what were the first impressions? Well I guess the sound is a personal preference thing. But to me it sounded like a bike ought to, and was frankly brilliant. Within a couple of miles I did a manoeuvre in traffic, I can't remember what, but thought "oh that was different" and glanced down at the tacho which was reading 5k rpm. I think the flat spot has been reduced as a result of the change. The power on rollups sounds great. I also feel happier when passing between stationary traffic as they stand a better chance of hearing you coming!

All in all Renegade did what they said they would, when they said they would, and in my opinion provided good value and an interesting visit. What more can I say? If you are thinking of changing your pipe you would do well to go to Renegade..do it now..you will not be disappointed!

Oh! I nearly forgot. Want to hear what it sounds like, and see what the sound looks like? Click the attachments. The sound file has had the quality reduced to get it into a manageable size, and should only be taken as representative rather than accurate. The other attachment shows a plot of the sound clip between Standard and Renegade. This is expanded out to show just 5 power strokes. I'm not a sound expert, but I don't think you need to be to spot the difference!

Download sound file (.wav 119k) - (remeber this is for a single low level can)        Download image file  

If you want to see a Renegade Exhaust go to their web site at http://www.renegade-exhausts.com/ , or better still get one!

Finally, the bike used the same amount of fuel each way, averaging 57mpg which is good. You can work out the average speed for yourself!

Thank you Kevin for such a good site and for putting me onto Renegade. My pleasure, I'm not saying I told you so but...

UPDATE 01/09/00 from Dave...

Here's Dave's image of his Renegade can....he also says...

I spoke to Jorge on Tuesday about the dB level of the exhaust as I went to a Track Day at Donnington on Wednesday and there was a bit of concern that I would be too loud...as it happens no problem...great fun. I'd do some Copy about it if you wanted but I don't know where it would fit on the site? I'll make it fit if you type it...

Melted the Azaro 2s....I've done a bit for the tyre section, see separate email. posted that there today...

Glad to hear from Jorge that Monday was a success....did you get your bike done yet? Did I get it done? Oh yes I did.... :- )   See Images section...

I have had my Blue SV650S since March, this site convinced me the SV was the right choice and 3000 miles later I am still grinning. I have kept mods to a minimum with a Powerbronze Airflow screen (definitely recommend) and a Micron Full Race System. The new exhaust sounds amazing although the fit isn't perfect. The first Carbon end can sheared in half coming off a round about due to the rubber mount falling apart, the replacement end-can seems to be standing up to the job well. The
rear cylinder down pipe is also very close to the shock, too close, but the handling doesn't seem to be affected. I put the original can back on the bike to do a track day and was horrified how much slower the bike SEEMED with the stock can! Next modes: Jets, Hoses, pads at 4k service.


If you are looking to buy an SV (or any other bike) in South London, I have been very impressed with Frontiers Motorcycles in Wimbledon Chase, they have made the whole experience of owning an SV a real pleasure, including after sales wich has been faultless (especially as the bike cost 4400 otr with a very good finance rate, you will have to haggle yourselves to find out how good.)

I have just spent 2 hours on an R6 demonstrator, deceptively quick but a bit clinical for my liking, I will keep my SV and my Licence! 

A quick question Dunlop D207 or Bridgestone BT56 ? Can you mail me if you use either of these (especially the softer compound variants). 

Company called Ixil, They don't have much info on their site and no pics but there's a whole raft of pics at http://www.sv650.ovh.org/. The only details I got from them so far is pricing;

The cost is between 229 USA dollar and 500 USA dollar.
We are making 1-2 high version in Aluminium, Carbon, Kevlar, Titanium.
High version 1-1, homologate C.E.E. version.

To all those outside the European Union interested in the Renegade products please remove 17.5% from the prices as this is UK tax.

Also as a discount to all the readers of this site, Renegade will pay for the postage of your system to you, particularly the ones wanting twins, and will contribute £5 towards Kevin's charity (MENCAP) for each order (single can) £10 (twin cans). 

Thanks. Renegade@dial.pipex.com

Thought you might like a picture of high level carbon oval exhaust by BSM.

can comes with pipe work so you do not have to cut the original plus you can put db killer inside. so far quality seems good and fitted very easily bye the way it sounds awesome. 

Just fitted 'Titanium' M4 Exhaust and what a system! It went on a dream (1 1/2 Hrs!) and sounds awesome. Just returned from I O M and those nice boys in the SUZUKI village put it on the DYNO. A cool 73 bhp with no carb adj yet , and a nice flat torque curve. Head to Jays Racing and get your SV sounding kike it deserves to!

Any chance of a copy of the dyno graph? How much did it cost?

Have been to renegade today on my 650s just up the road and would like to tell everybody considering buying an after market exhaust forget the rest, Go get a renegade . 

I arrived at about 2 o'clock (they close at 12) to have a look through the window. The door opened and i was invited in. We had a chat and i came away with coffee in my belly some sound advice in my head a very large smile on my face and growling in my ears. I was now the very proud owner of a pair of high level round titanium exhausts.

They sound awesome they look awesome in fact they are awesome. The time and effort the guys put in to make sure everything was spot on was unreal. I am one very very happy customer....one bit of advice stop thinking about changing the exhaust (I umed and ard for about 2 months), just do it its worth every penny. I've read the other emails about how friendly renegade were and I agree with them all..

THEY ARE WICKED 

Superb site,

I have recently fitted a full micron race exhaust to my 99 SVs. I had no problem fitting it apart from a couple of stiff clamps, but when I located the forward down-pipe into the engine block, the small portion that  fits into the body seemed to be about twice the length of the standard system. So I fitted the securing bracket and tightened it up but there now is a gap  between the bracket and body obviously putting stress on the bracket. 

Being excited about hearing the finished effort I decided to start her up and check the rest of the system for leaks finding there to be no leeks from the system or the front down pipe. The pipe is secure and I've taken it out and I  have no power loss so I have left it for now, I need a new tyre so when I  take it in I'll ask the mechanic about it but I was just wondering if anyone  could tell me where I had gone wrong or if this was normal ( which I dont think it could be ).

The pipe does take a bit of getting used to at first because of the difference in noise levels but it is well worth it with looks, power (got a dyno chart?) and the throaty rumble it sends out.

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Great to see that other sv owners have had the pleasure of meeting MAD JORGE! Boy is this guy radio rental on anything with two wheels as well as anything with two.......

Anyway this is just a big plug for all the staff as well as Jorge (George to you and me) down near Brands. After having my twin high level carbons fitted in Nov99 I have been back countless times for other adjustments and fittings as well as just to see what bikes are undergoing surgery. Your always made to feel welcome whatever the time (after 8pm is not unusual) and you come away with that long forgotten feeling of personal customer service.

The reason behind this plug ?......getting fed up with people stopping me in petrol stations , car parks and traffic lights asking "f*****g great pipes where ja get 'em from". 

Get yourself down there and check out the man with a '90 degree twin between his ears ! Cheers George.......Big Jon

I have a yellow SX which i adore! Also some info on aforementioned exhausts which may be of interest.

Spoke to Mike today at 'G-Force', they make some very attractive exhausts for SV650. Two models available, a slip-on end can (cutting required) and a 3/4 system where the existing front cylinder downpipe is maintained. Power is claimed to be up by 4 bhp or 7 bhp with 3/4 system. Alloy, Carbon, titanium available and prices range from £140 for round alloy end can to £405 for 3/4 system with oval titanium.

I do not work or have any connection at all with this company but found Mike very helpful and knowledgeable concerning SV650 so decided to share info. I am saving for a 3/4 system with round carbon (£340). Their telephone number is Tel 0115 9441032 (Ilkeston, Derbyshire)

Anyone running a G-Force exhaust with further comments?